They Rewrote This American History — And It's Destroying Religious Liberty
Anatomy of the Church and State
Interview With Documentarian Andrew Linn
The "separation of church and state" isn't what they taught you — and it's costing us our religious liberty right now.
Most people think this idea came from secular thinkers like Thomas Jefferson in the 18th century. But 128 years earlier, Roger Williams — a deeply committed Christian — used Scripture to establish true religious freedom in the 1663 Rhode Island charter, making it the FIRST colony to guarantee liberty of conscience.
I sat down with documentary director Andrew Linn ("Church and State: Roger
Williams and the Founding of Freedom of Religion") to expose what really
happened — and who rewrote it.
In this episode, we cover:
✅ Why the modern left has rewritten Roger Williams as a secular hero —
and why every single one of his arguments was rooted in the Bible
✅ The 1663 biblical blueprint that predated the First Amendment by 128 years
✅ Why BOTH the secular "separation" model AND the Puritan state-religion
model fall short of what Scripture actually teaches
✅ What the Founders really built — and what Christian nationalists AND
secular progressives both get wrong
✅ How this hidden history is being used to strip religious liberty today
Whether you're wrestling with Christian nationalism, the First Amendment, or
what the Bible says about government today — this is the conversation that
cuts through the noise with a clear, scripture-based verdict.
🎬 Watch Andrew Linn's full documentary here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqFk9dZ1ui4&t=4s
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Topic Timeline
00:00- Intro
01:12- Why should we care about Williams?
02:25- Forced worship stinks to God
03:15- Why Is Roger Williams history buried?
05:44- What most people have wrong about Church & state
06:46- Colonies had state run religion
08:57- The famous Jefferson letter in context
13:00- What passages of Scripture influenced Williams?
15: 06- Freedom OF not FROM religion
19:14- What did the Puritans get wrong?
22:24- Puritan punishment
24:20- Why did Puritans banish Roger Williams?
26:40- An alternate colony to the Puritans
30:06- Founder influenced by Williams?
31:24- Who has the superior model?
33:46- Woke right
36:39- Closing prayer
37:14- Documentary trailer