Tony Givhan & Patrick Studabaker | Learn To Defend Your Faith | Anatomy of the Church and State #23

Anatomy of the Church and State


Anatomy of the Church and State

Episode 23 with Cave To The Cross Hosts Tony Givhan & Patrick Studabaker


Why are Christian apologetics important? Apologetics provides a framework for Christians to understand and defend their faith in a world that is increasingly hostile to Christianity. Apologetics can also help Christians to better understand their own faith and to articulate it more clearly to others. Join me and the hosts of the Cave To The Cross Podcast as we discuss!


Tony Givhan has graduate degrees from Western Michigan University and Grand Rapids Theology Seminary. He earned his PhD in Philosophy of Science from Michigan State University. He has been married for 40 years and has five adult children. Patrick has a Bachelor of Science from Western Michigan University where he minored in Philosophy. They’ve been friends since 2005 and are the hosts of Cave To The Cross Apologetics: A podcast where they break down and discuss books and articles on philosophy, theology, and similar subjects.


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Topic Timeline

1:52 Tony’s Faith journey

5:03 Patrick’s Faith journey

9:40 Beginnings of Cave to the Cross

12:19 More about the podcast

13:17 Types of Apologetics

15:12 Start with the Gospel

16:20 Preferred Apologetic approach?

17:50 Presuppositional Apologetics

21:10 Reality, logic, ethics

23:31 Base level Apologetics

24:35 Apologetics is important for believers

25:37 Our worldview is superior

26:21 I Peter 3:15

28:01 Doubting Thomas

29:05 Did Lincoln exist?

31:30 Balancing Christian life and Apologetics

33:35 Two types of Faith

35:34 Be a part of the local church

36:33 Finding a good church

39:37 Apologetics and Politics

41:27 Made in His image

42:40 Guard rails

43:38 Imposing and contrasting worldviews

46:08 Christ is Lord is foundational level

48:03 Trends and the New Atheists

50:05 Dawkins’ remarks

51:15 Faith is a mental disease?

53:36 By what standard?

54:38 Today’s Apologetics in today’s culture

58:14 Church history books hold many answers

59:55 Mercy

1:03:10 Why does God allow evil?

1:04:27 Christianity is a white man’s religion

1:07:00 Bible can’t be reliable because written by man

1:09:45 If God is loving, why did he kill people?

1:13:38 Christianity promotes bigotry and homophobia

1:15:40 Gospel promotes slavery

1:17:35 Christians shouldn’t be in politics

1:20:27 Government is ordained by God

1:21:01 Christians are hypocrites 

1:22:12 Guests’ closing remarks

1:24:22 Closing prayer